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we got smarter... that in itself gives us the right as humans to take over. what makes us so strong is out ability to adapt. show me an animal that can work a computer an then i will be a little more willing to accept this animals are equal issue!

and i will take pics of our 3 kitties. i love them!!!
 

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Right now we have taken over and gotten smarter, but I think we were originally created to have equal rights. Thats just what I think though, I think this is something everyone has there own opinion about. Being a cat lover you should see hat they do to the cats for experiments

http://www.all-creatures.org/anex/cat.html

You should post a pic of your kitty, our cat is spolied rotten too.

worse. photoshop. ever.

I could do better than that in ms paint ffs!! This one picture makes that entire website biased and untruthful.
 
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worse. photoshop. ever.

I could do better than that in ms paint ffs!! This one picture makes that entire website biased and untruthful.
THAT was on a animal cruelty website? OMG that is SO bogus and like you said, a BAD fake, and yet people believe it. People can be so gulible and naive. [bash]

For example, they shave the hair around any incision site. This "poor kitty" grew all it's hair back! So if this WAS real, then he's pretty damn healthy with a gash in his head for several months!!!

Use some common sense if you look at crap like this. The researchers put a lot of time and money into their research, and DON'T want the animals to get infected and die. They don't leave open wounds with DB25 connectors!
 

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Everything seen on the internet can be considered "photoshoped". If you are good enough it would be very hard to see the difference. For all I know you are photoshoped.
 
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I had already said (basically) what bearswife and epj3 was saying and we are still going on about how cruel humans are to other creatures and we are all on the same level of equality (humans and other animals that is).
I suppose this conversation is here to educate those that say, "just look what we do to those poor kittes"

I dont condole cruel experimentation or beating animals in anyway, but if you take into context, the amount of greater good that one kitty did for all of us by being the guineapig for some weird and twisted brain experiment, we could that much closer to finding a cure for things like parkensons or cancer.

Because we are at the top of the food chain (simply speaking), we take it upon our self to select subjects to help in our search for what ever it may be. We dont do it out of the dark cruelty of our hearts, we do it because we are trying to gain medical knowledge to help people like you that will suffer greatly, when you get old, of some crazy disease.... beacse you didnt eat meat, hehehe, j/k.

Im sorry our subjects are cute kitties or rodents or monkees or jews (hehe). but listen, if you dont read anything in my post, read this. If you had a disease that had the potential to kill everyone else, just because you are alive, would you take your own life?
You would. And you would because we are human. Being human provides us the ability to make that decision to help everyone else.
Other creatures do not have the understanding that if they give their life for research, that that creature could help millions of others. So we do the part of removing that decision from them, and selecting them as the patient. It might seem cruel, but thats the power that we as humans have. The power to do good, unfortunate that it looks bad on fuzzy little animals.

I bet you wouldnt be complaining if it were a regular fish cause its ugly. So what i was going to say earlier and figured i better explain it to you so i dont seem like such an ass by saying i dont expect to have an inteligent conversation with someone uneducated in such matters.

To put is extremely simply, this is life. This is the way it has to be and the way it ever will be. Suck it up. [thumb]
 
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i have no problem with anyone really. vegan, athiest whatever. what i do have a problem with is people trying to force those opinions on others explaining why my or others opinions are wrong.
 
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And thats sort of our issue here. A complete conversation can not have an end until both parties understand both sides and enlightenment is reached.

Those people you speak of (i typed steak there, guess im hungry reading this) are the uneducated. They reached that understanding because they are blinded by their closed minds and biased opinions. I have pitty on them.
 

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YES! lets tests on Jews!! Great idea xlibelle [:D]

I found another website, one that cannot possibly be photoshop, and is much more gory

http://www.interniche.org/gallery/gall-exp.html

And it does sometimes help diseases, but I'm sure probably hundreds of millions of animals died because of different type cancer research, but did we find, or even get close to, finding a cure? A lot of animals were killed for useless testing, I'm sure by now we know soup burns eyes, they don't have to pour soup in rats eyes and see what happens, just like we know not to eat lipstick. Heres a list of companies that do animal testing that is not required by law, most of them either cleaning or beauty products.

http://www.stopanimaltests.com/c-cconsdo.html


You're all probably thinking I'm just a hypocrite and use those products myself, but I actually just went through my makeup bag and got rid of any CG, Max fartor, and any other make up companies that were on that list.
 
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YES! lets tests on Jews!! Great idea xlibelle [:D]

I found another website, one that cannot possibly be photoshop, and is much more gory

http://www.interniche.org/gallery/gall-exp.html

And it does sometimes help diseases, but I'm sure probably hundreds of millions of animals died because of different type cancer research, but did we find, or even get close to, finding a cure? A lot of animals were killed for useless testing, I'm sure by now we know soup burns eyes, they don't have to pour soup in rats eyes and see what happens, just like we know not to eat lipstick. Heres a list of companies that do animal testing that is not required by law, most of them either cleaning or beauty products.

http://www.stopanimaltests.com/c-cconsdo.html


You're all probably thinking I'm just a hypocrite and use those products myself, but I actually just went through my makeup bag and got rid of any CG, Max fartor, and any other make up companies that were on that list.
chemotherapy?? Maybe??
 

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That list is bullshit. Some companies are listed twice (Gillette and braun...doh!)

Please keep trying to find something to back up your arguments that is not full of errors or lies.
 

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Peta would be sued ten times over by the companies on that list if it were fake, and I'm not sure why some are listed twice, I think it has something to do with that parenthasis and the little astricts (*). And I'm not trying to force my idea on anyone, I'm just trying to show my point, becuase sme people think everything is photoshop and lies. I agree that a lit of it is but also a lot of it is real.

Edit: I noticed you didn't say anything about the first website, becuase you can see IT'S REAL.
 
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Originally posted by bearswife
i have no problem with anyone really. vegan, athiest whatever. what i do have a problem with is people trying to force those opinions on others explaining why my or others opinions are wrong.


Originally posted by epj3
That list is bullshit. Some companies are listed twice (Gillette and braun...doh!)

Please keep trying to find something to back up your arguments that is not full of errors or lies.
I'm with you. Tell me that it's morally reprehensible to your values and I respect your opinion. Back it up with facts and I VALUE your opinion. Back it up with half-truths and crap - well, you just look goofy....[8]
 


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