A Pill's Surprises, for Patient and Doctor Alike

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No!!!!!! You have got to be kidding me.....

New York Times
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January 25. 2005
As a psychopharmacologist, I know that every patient responds slightly differently to medication. But it wasn't until I met Susan that I understood just how differently.

She'd come to see me because she was depressed, and I'd successfully treated her with a course of Zoloft, a popular antidepressant. But as often happens, Susan's desire for sex had vanished along with her depressed mood.

"I kind of miss it, but I feel really bad for my husband, who's getting very frustrated," she said.

The sexual side effects of antidepressants like Zoloft and Prozac - the class of drugs known as selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors, or S.S.R.I.'s - are well known. The drugs frequently cause diminished libido, erectile dysfunction in men, and delayed orgasm or an inability to climax at all in women. The same flooding of the brain with serotonin that alleviates depression leads to sexual effects in many patients.

Early on, the rates of sexual side effects from S.S.R.I.'s reported in the medical literature were quite low, in the range of 10 percent to 20 percent. But clinicians knew better. Most of their patients reported some sexual effects, and it quickly became clear that the early reports were wrong.

The reason for this error was simple. Early clinical trials of the drugs did not look for sexual side effects; they just recorded problems that patients spontaneously reported. Because most patients are reluctant to bring up any sexual side effects on their own, the researchers got the false impression that these drugs had little effect on sexuality. When the subjects were specifically asked about sexual side effects, the rates rose to 40 percent to 50 percent.

Susan fell into that unlucky percentage, and she asked me if anything could be done. There were three possible approaches, I told her. She could stop the drug from time to time, a strategy that might temporarily restore her sex drive but could cause discontinuation symptoms; she could lower the dose of the antidepressant, which might provoke a relapse of depression; or we could try to counteract the side effects with another medication.

A temporary escape didn't appeal to Susan, so we decided on the third approach, an antidote. The question was, Which one? Serotonin-blocking drugs like Periactin, an antihistamine, treat sexual side effects, but they can also undo the drugs' antidepressant effects. I decided to prescribe Wellbutrin, a different class of antidepressant that has shown some ability to counteract sexual dysfunction caused by S.S.R.I.'s.

Little did I know.

Two weeks later, Susan called from her cellphone to say that the antidote was working. While shopping, she said, she spontaneously had an orgasm that had lasted on and off for nearly two hours . She was more delighted than alarmed, but I was stunned. I have had my share of therapeutic surprises, but this was hard to believe.

Was this a medical emergency or unrepeatable fluke that Susan needn't worry about? When I saw her the next day in my office, she was calm and somewhat amused by my concern. After all, since when is an orgasm a cause for alarm?

I was worried, though, that the addition of Wellbutrin had set off an episode of mania, an effect that antidepressants can have in up to 5 percent of patients. In that case, her prolonged orgasm might be a symptom of hypersexuality, common in mania. But Susan didn't seem either manic or depressed.

It seems that for her, the Wellbutrin just had an extreme sexually enhancing effect. Several colleagues told me about patients of theirs who had experienced heightened sexual desire on Wellbutrin, but none of the reports came close to Susan's. That Wellbutrin can enhance sexual pleasure isn't surprising: it increases the activity of dopamine, a key neurotransmitter in the brain's reward pathway. In fact, drugs of abuse, like cocaine, alcohol and opiates, release dopamine in this circuit - and so does sex.

A year has passed without a recurrence of this surprising side effect. But Susan is enjoying sex now - clearly more than she did before she became depressed. Because this was her first episode of major depression, the chance of a recurrence was only about 50 percent, so I suggested stopping the antidepressant. She liked that idea, but then paused and asked, "Do I have to stop the Wellbutrin, too?"

We both laughed.

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Before you get all excited, just remember, take as little drugs as possible!

For example, people might start thinking about taking Wellbutrin cuz of the increased libido. Yeah, that's an actual reported side effects. However, here's a list of other side effects the drug has:

Seizures
Painful Ejaculation
Painful Erection
Sexual Dysfunction
Hair Loss
Impotence
Complete or Almost Complete Loss of Movement
Bed-Wetting

... lovely what drugs can do to you, huh? Interesting article tho.
 
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aNoodle said:
Yikes! Way to dash our hopes codex. :-(
Sorry. You live with a pharmacist, and they show you all kinds of scary crap drugs do to you. I finally understand why pharmacists tend not to like their own families to take drugs. My g/f got all upset when I bought aspirin cuz I was supposed to get something like tylenol instead. I didn't even realize there was much of a difference.
 
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Sorry. You live with a pharmacist, and they show you all kinds of scary crap drugs do to you. I finally understand why pharmacists tend not to like their own families to take drugs. My g/f got all upset when I bought aspirin cuz I was supposed to get something like tylenol instead. I didn't even realize there was much of a difference.

Same issues living with a doctor. My wife spends much time during her clinic hours weaning patients off of drugs that family/general practice doctors prescribed without understanding the patient and the interactions like this article talks about. I think I mentioned before that she is detoxing a patient that was PRESCRIBED 26 Vicodin (or some other pain killer) a day, when the lady really need to be treated for depression. CRAZEEE!!!
 
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Haha, yeah, pretty much all patients at the hospital where my g/f works are overmedicated. That's cuz to prescribe, instead of handwriting a prescription, the docs just have to click boxes on the computer. When it comes time to renew, the just highlight all, and hit the "renew" button. I don't think they even stop and figure out if the pt should be off of some drugs or not.
 
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Same issues living with a doctor. My wife spends much time during her clinic hours weaning patients off of drugs that family/general practice doctors prescribed without understanding the patient and the interactions like this article talks about. I think I mentioned before that she is detoxing a patient that was PRESCRIBED 26 Vicodin (or some other pain killer) a day, when the lady really need to be treated for depression. CRAZEEE!!!
I was on Vicodin for some back pain a while back and after taking 2 or 3 a day, that was nice. So believe-you-me, if you are taking 26 of them a day, you are definatly NOT depressed, hehehe. (For a funny Vicodin story, watch Bill Engvall: Here's Your Sign)
 

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I was on Vicodin for some back pain a while back and after taking 2 or 3 a day, that was nice. So believe-you-me, if you are taking 26 of them a day, you are definatly NOT depressed, hehehe. (For a funny Vicodin story, watch Bill Engvall: Here's Your Sign)
Ha....for another funny vicotin story watch BMO's Six Feet Under when the sister goes off it. Has Kathy Bates in it and kinda reminds you of Misery...that Stephen King book/movie.
 


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